Rush , the best decktype in dm

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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Nerafim » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:40 am

You don't quite get it. The point is that a well made rush has enough of a power base to get by Noble. And frankly, good rushes would likely also have Popcopen too, which makes counter-attacks more troublesome as well.
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Bell » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:31 pm

Rin wrote:I doubt Lmaotan has anything quite like that in mind.


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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Rin » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:37 pm

Cause everything I've seen him mention seems to be mostly low power, as per the most traditional Eng rushes, which he also specifically refers to.
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Lmaotan » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:53 pm

to me amount > power in rush.
its good to have both , but i guess "power rush" is less consistent than "swarm rush"
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby AnGGa » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:22 pm

Lmaotan, you have not responded to the possibility of Noble Enforcer or a triggered Hell's Scraper making you lose automatically.
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Lmaotan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:37 am

hell scrapper is for kids , everyone should use apocalpyse vise.
noble enforcer like useless but worse, so people dont use it.

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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Alexander » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:29 am

While rush can have eight 1 drops and have high consistency is making good big early fields, noble enforcers and scrappers just aren't consistent.

Noble Enforcer at 3x or 4x is not something good. It may ruin synergy and occupy space for potentially powerful cards. Gears are never great at 4x. At 2, though it may do its job well enough, there's no saying whether you'll get it by turn 4 or no. Plus, a lot of times, even if you have noble in hand, it might just be too late by turn 4. And sadly, blockers other than yuliana are generally not much against rush.

Scrapper is good but you still need it in your shields and that is something rare.

Other than these, there's aqua surfer which does wonders against rush. But that in itself is another card which does not go hand in hand with synergy AND you also need it in shields.

Emeral? Its broken. Its rightly restricted in JP. I hope it gets nerfed at set 17 in KC too. So considering JP format, whats the chance that you'll get a 1x card by turn 2 or 3 to AND have a scrapper in hand to place it in shields and ruin the rusher?

Rush pwns. You need some good luck to beat it. Unfortunately, people ignore it and use volcano chargers.
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Rin » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:18 am

It's probably not that different from any deck's natural counters, I mostly just thought Lmaotan would personally get especially frustrated whenever he got shredded by a Scrapper trigger. Well the situation just makes the effect more exaggerated, as far as a single card goes, so when it does go off it has an especially big impact on the game, psychologically.
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby wanderer » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:29 am

my thoughts:
i dont think rush alone can always triumph. But i agree to the fact that rush can go insane and invincible when a drop of control and destruction is added to it. A simple example is RUG: one of the best rush decks, along with destruction, bounce and pounce ofc 8)
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Re: Rush , the best decktype in dm

Postby Alexander » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:54 am

RUG? You prolly got rush confused with assault dude.
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