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[Lmaotan]

Creatures (10 Water, 7 Darkness, 11 Fire, 28 Total):
4 x Aqua Hulcus --- [cost 3 Water]
2 x Dark Hidora, Lord of the Evil Planet --- [cost 6 Darkness]
2 x Sky Soldier Wingraios --- [cost 6 Fire]
2 x Aqua Guard --- [cost 1 Water]
2 x Rothus, the Traveler --- [cost 4 Fire]
2 x Aqua Surfer --- [cost 6 Water]
3 x Gigabalza --- [cost 4 Darkness]
2 x Simian Warrior Grash --- [cost 4 Fire]
2 x Smash Warrior Stagrandu --- [cost 2 Fire]
2 x Gigarayze --- [cost 4 Darkness]
2 x Thrash Crawler --- [cost 4 Water]
3 x Brock, the Screw Soldier --- [cost 1 Fire]

Spells (3 Water, 5 Darkness, 2 Fire, 10 Total):
1 x Crystal Memory --- [cost 4 Water]
2 x Volcano Charger --- [cost 4 Fire]
2 x Slash Charger --- [cost 3 Darkness]
2 x Energy Stream --- [cost 3 Water]
3 x Terror Pit --- [cost 6 Darkness]

Evolutions (1 Water, 1 Rainbow, 2 Total):
1 x Phantomach, the Gigatrooper --- [cost 5 Darkness Fire]
1 x Crystal Lancer --- [cost 6 Water]

Cost info:
1 : UU RR R
2 : RR
3 : UU UU UU BB
4 : UU UB BB BB RR RR RR
5 : D
6 : UU UB BB BB RR

Average cost = 3.85

Creatures / Spells / Evolutions / Gears / Evo Gears: 28/10/2/0/0

0 Light, 14 Water, 12 Darkness, 13 Fire, 0 Nature, 1 Rainbow

Blockers: 10.0% (4/40).
Chargers: 10.0% (4/40).
Double Breakers: 7.5000005% (3/40).
Shield Triggers: 27.5% (11/40).


bell's idea , i tried to build this

[Nerafim]

Dark Hidora Armoloids mana burn RUB are awesome. One of the absolutely first things I tried on KP, and it also actually gave me the feeling that I found "the new face of RUB". It's a pretty awesome decktype but you just seem to not really go for that I guess. But it's really poorly represented...The Armoloids that is, so it looks like goofing around to me. Either do proper focus on Armoloids or Liquid People. Or for that matter WHY isn't it with Chimera's and Armoloids and different staple from Water.

It looks like you are searching for attacking potential in the old battered mentality, so you are going for LP instead of the more natural Phantomach.

And the quantities...I'm not really feeling them.

[Rin]

It looks like you are searching for attacking potential in the old battered mentality, so you are going for LP instead of the more natural Phantomach.

bell's idea , i tried to build this

Like Bell said before, for Lmaotan it's not 'mindset,' not mentality; it's not about being old and battered. She recommended this to him for a reason so drop all that crap and let it be.

Anyway kind of does look like you had trouble fitting in enough armorloids with all the other stuff. I'd say at least, drop 1 Brock for Rothus or Stagrandu or even Grash. Brock is pretty situational, it would probably too often be useless for 3, especially in comparison to the other guys. A single may even be optimal overall, with all that search.

Using Locomotiver over Gigabalza even with other chimera in the deck and no other hedrians, what a brilliant ploy to throw off the opponent.

[Bell]

Hmm... Add another Stagrandu and make do with only one Lancer.

Otherwise it's fine from the looks of it. I can say though that if you want to optimize it and don't mind a little less 'consistency' then you can drop one Pit and add one more Hidora. The main reason is that if you get any of the main systems working at all, Surfer is going to be enough.

Wingraios is also a consideration, but that may go too far in the direction you don't like, and admittedly the deck does not have a lot of crushing power before then so it isn't likely that they will not have some other small thing to let die.

But almost definitely -1 Pit (or Loco, actually) and +1 Hidora.

[Lmaotan]

edited. added 2 wings alongside with 2 surfer and 2 pit.
also i realised if i switch locos for gigabalza i could do phantomach too.
i tried finding space for the 3rd hidora but i guess crystal memory should seal the deal.
i am also thinking of corpse instead of gigarayze because corpse can help me revive hidora (then i wouldn't need 3)

i think brock needs to be at 3 because i need 2 of them to effectively do the engine (1 in grave , 1 in hand).
if i leave it at 2 copies what if one is in shields or bottom of deck? o_O.

somehow i feel that the aqua guard isn't doing much for me, especially with only 1 lancer , it could have been hulcus or surfer for that brock bait tho. also thinking of pointa because i lack 5 drop

[Rin]

edited. added 2 wings alongside with 2 surfer and 2 pit.
also i realised if i switch locos for gigabalza i could do phantomach too.

Might be best off with just Lancer here

i think brock needs to be at 3 because i need 2 of them to effectively do the engine (1 in grave , 1 in hand).
if i leave it at 2 copies what if one is in shields or bottom of deck? o_O.

It's probably usually optimal with 1 Rothus and 1 Brock. You'll only have a few fire mana anyway, and if they have no creatures to destroy you've probably won either way.

[Lmaotan]

oh shit i thought hidora revives according to name and not to race -_-. ok

[Rin]

Ah. Well it also seems like Bell OKed the list with 3 Brock so it's hard to say, but I just can't see much point myself. Or, well I guess it's because of the use outside that combo, since it's pretty effective with either Grash or Hidora separately as well.

[Bell]

No, you're right. Rothus-Brock works quite well as a chain also, the key issue was always timing it according to what was needed in hand. The more Brock you have, the cheaper you can revive other Armorloids if needed, and the easier it is to do other things while keeping the manaburn going.

That is of course the primary reason. You can usually afford to Brock twice, but in the long run if you hold Brock in hand and then summon it to get Rothus back, you need to play Rothus right then to make sure you get Brock back, which is 5 mana. You could leave Brock in grave but it still means that next turn you must again dedicate mana to Rothus. This should be okay overall since it's mana burnt every turn, and if you draw Grash you can just get Brock back with Grash but it definitely affects how early the deck can get moving.

It's not particularly good to run this with less than 3 Brock because it opens too many exploitable holes in the engine.

[Lmaotan]

as you guys know i hate dead draws and crystal lancer + phantomach + aqua guard + several other dead draws is starting to mess me up already.

now i actually have an idea , would it be better if
1. i remove all the gigabalza and gigarazyze and phantomach
2. + pierr + jenny? i could summon pierr and get back jenny just incase i need it with hidora in the field , i just felt that i needed more defense. and pierr albeit weaker than squito in many sense actually have a link to jenny at least.

anyway i am definately going to remove phantomach i am trying to make this deck as consistent as possible.